A Conversation on Values with Professor Heidi Brooks

In this conversation, Heidi and Michael discuss values in the context of management. Heidi begins with a story that describes how she came to understand her "true north" as the practice of creating courageous communities. Michael and Heidi then follow that story with a discussion of how values guide leadership and inspire people, the difference between bravery and courage, the risks that arise from not pursuing one's values, and more.

Heidi mentions a brief quote from Rilke during the pod: 

"I want to beg you, as much as I can, dear sir, to be patient toward all that is unsolved in your heart and to try to love the questions themselves like locked rooms and like books that are written in a very foreign tongue. Do not now seek the answers, which cannot be given you because you would not be able to live them. And the point is, to live everything. Live the questions now. Perhaps you will then gradually, without noticing it, live along some distant day into the answer..."

To learn more about Professor Heidi Brooks go here.

To hear more of the song "Cheer up Daniel" from the episode written and performed by Hey Rogue go here.

The episode features insights summarized in this article:

Podolny, J. M., Khurana, R., & Hill-Popper, M. (2004). Revisiting the meaning of leadership. Research in organizational behavior26, 1-36.


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